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    #11
    You got some parts of that wrong. I don't agree, not even subconsciously, that sex should be a normal thing to practice. I find it perverted, and I always will.

    It does not feel good to hate, but not because it is unnatural. I never said it felt unnatural to hate. It just doesn't make you feel good to hate. What I know is incorrect, is hating others and putting others down. I'm not the kind of person who wants to put others down. It can just be hard to control your anger, when it's you against so many other people. It makes you WANT to put others down, even though you know that it isn't entirely right to do so. But I did it anyways, because I really had to. I had to let go of my hatred in a direct way.

    I don't agree that it is natural to have sex as an act of love making at all. I understand that it might be natural to fantasize about sexual thoughts, and I understand that it might be natural to feel sexual attraction, but I don't agree that it is natural to connect sexual pleasure to a love ritual. There are many kinds of pleasure out there which can be connected to love, such as massage, compliments, kisses and hugs and such, but I believe that sexual pleasure is a thing you'd naturally not want to do with someone you love. I don't believe that falling in love, and everything that relates to love, can lead one towards wanting to give or recieve sexual pleasure. I think sexual pleasure and attraction comes from other sources than love.

    I don't hate happy couples. If I feel hatred against a couple, then it is not for the fact that they are happy together, but for the fact that they are having sex. I don't hate happy couples. I just want couples to be happy without sex. I just want to see that people are able to love each other without including any forms of sexual attraction. Because I believe that true love can only be achieved WITHOUT sexual pleasure and attraction. I am not asexual at all, but you can call me asexual as soon as I fall in love with someone, because it always works that way for me, and I also believe that it works this way for others too, when they fall in love. If the feeling of being in love was a person, then that person would be asexual.

    I hope that made things more clear about me.
    (This post was last modified: 12-07-2015, 05:58 PM by David Wright.)
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    #12
    I can understand completely that you think sex is nothing more than a "tool" for reproduction... And what I tell others who ask advice (And I realize your rant was a vent, not a request for advice...). So it should only be done when trying to create children.

    If you don't like having sex, that's cool, You have to live with yourself 24/7 365, so you be happy. But some people may argue that having sex without love is perverted...That's cool too.

    a few more questions for now:
    Are you religious? Some people think sex before marriage is perverted and evil... But I can tell by talking to you... You think even still, sex is wrong unless having kids. So consummating a marriage is wrong in your opinion?

    Do you think oral sex is sex...Do you have that in the same thought process as regular sex... Some people may argue that Oral sex is not sex...

    Thanks for bearing with me on this. I find it interesting and want to understand... Just to reiterate, no one here is judging you.
    (This post was last modified: 12-07-2015, 07:22 PM by LZA.)
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    #13
    The issue is not about pleasure. I am not at all assuming about myself that I don't like sex. I haven't had it, and hopefully I never will, but the issue is not about pleasure. It's about what sex is, when you look at it from an objective perspective. I don't want myself to be involved into that kind of dirtiness, even if it feels good, because it looks dirty and perverted to me. Which also explains why I am angered and disgusted by people who are doing it, thinking that the fact that it feels good or gives you pleasure justifies it to not be perverted. It's like they lack the ability to look at things from an objective perspective.

    I am an atheist.
    I have no interest in the topic of marriage. Personally I don't want to get married, because I think it's a ritual that belongs to those who are religious, and that you don't need a priest to declare you as a true couple. I am not against marriage. I think it is weird that atheists like me get themselves married, but I am not disgusted out by it or anything. Why would I be? Sex is an action that is very disturbing to think of, and that's what drives me to think that sex is for perverts. Marriage is just a weird ritual that I don't believe in. But sex is an act that really creeps me out. No, not like that. I can watch porn and have a good time, but thinking about people I know doing those kind of things without feeling ashamed creeps me the fuck out.

    Yes, oral sex is also sex. By my definition of sex, it is every act that is 'sexual'. If you can find it on a porn site, I'll call it sex.
    (This post was last modified: 12-09-2015, 08:13 PM by David Wright.)
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    #14
    (12-09-2015, 07:45 PM)David Wright Wrote:  ... I don't like sex. I haven't had it, and hopefully I never will...

    are you unattractive?

    (12-09-2015, 07:45 PM)David Wright Wrote:  If you can find it on a porn site, I'll call it sex.

    watching someone cry while getting flogged by a midget (and the midget is a clown or mime or furry) is not sex... that's just funny.

    "Yeah. I understand the mechanics of it, shithead. I just don't understand how this is any less retarded than what I'm suggesting." - Kiley; Housebound.
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    #15
    Why should I be unattractive? I certainly hope that I am attractive. In a loving and non-sexual way of course.

    When you comment on such small excerpts of what I am writing, you don't get the full image of the message I am trying to spread across. Either read it all, and try to fully understand what I am trying to say here, or don't reply in this thread. Thanks.
    (This post was last modified: 12-10-2015, 11:06 AM by David Wright.)
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    #16
    In Spork's way, I think he's trying to ascertain why you have such a hard, adamant stance on your opinion. I think he's thinking that you must have a reason (like I did, I actually though you may be unattractive and rejected by women, and took this "sour grapes" type stance as one of the many reasons there could be)... But you say no, so I believe it... Hope you are not angry, but I know by posting with you that it's more than that... I'm beginning to think you just don't like sex Nothing wrong with that...

    And porn is not sex for the most part (the midget whipping BS is for entertainment, but there are people that actually have an orgasm watching that...

    Takes many people to make up the world...
    (This post was last modified: 12-10-2015, 01:51 PM by LZA.)
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    #17
    (12-10-2015, 01:50 PM)LZA Wrote:  In Spork's way, I think he's trying to ascertain why you have such a hard, adamant stance on your opinion. I think he's thinking that you must have a reason (like I did, I actually though you may be unattractive and rejected by women, and took this "sour grapes" type stance as one of the many reasons there could be)... But you say no, so I believe it... Hope you are not angry, but I know by posting with you that it's more than that... I'm beginning to think you just don't like sex Nothing wrong with that...

    And porn is not sex for the most part (the midget whipping BS is for entertainment, but there are people that actually have an orgasm watching that...

    Takes many people to make up the world...

    I find it incredible that people are trying to find a reason for why I am saying this. Going back to my first post, I think it is obvious that sex is perverted. You don't need to have had any bad experiences. You don't need to be raped to think of sex as a dirty thing. You don't need to be sexually rejected (since there's a difference between being rejected, and being sexually rejected). I think everyone should be able to tell that sex is dirty and perverted, just by looking at it. I will never in my entire life understand how one can NOT think that sex is dirty and perverted, unless they are completely ignorant to what sex is.

    Let's not say "I don't like sex". That's slightly incorrect. I am against sex. Not that I don't like it. I just find it dirty and perverted. Hell, I'll probably like it, but looking at it from an objective perspective, I still see that it is dirty and perverted, and therefore the fact that I may like it doesn't count. I am not going to do such a dirty thing with anyone, and neither should anyone else, unless it is meant for reproduction.

    You know, it doesn't really matter to me what we define as porn, and what we don't. What you'll find on a porn site is perverted. And I know that some of the content on a porn site, is as simple as "normal sex" as well.

    In another definition of sex:

    Sex when two people or more join in an act that results in genital-pleasure. That's what I find perverted. ...including the weird stuff on porn sites that we all find perverted. Sex is technically two people agreeing to get raped by each other in a soft and gentle way. That also explain why I am disgusted by people who are having sex.
    (This post was last modified: 12-10-2015, 07:04 PM by David Wright.)
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    #18
    Try not to be offended, You have a very interesting stance on sex and I (We'd) like to understand it better. you're whole post^^^^ I agree with the thought process (I just don't view sex in the way that you do), but you're right, you don't have to be damaged, or off, or anything, and still not like sex...

    Usually when someone makes a comment as...........controversial (for lack of a better word...it really isn't but you know what I mean...definite debate starter ) as yours we all get questions, and like you even said, and have experienced other people saying you're wrong or judging you. I (LZA) am not judging you at all, I am disagreeing with you... and I Think once you have sex you'll see it's a great way to show your partner that you love them. But that's in the future...

    I'm glad you found this place to vent your feelings, though...Even answering my stupid questions must be cathartic in some sort of way...
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    #19
    (12-10-2015, 06:18 PM)LZA Wrote:  and I Think once you have sex you'll see it's a great way to show your partner that you love them.

    WRONG.

    Romantic attraction is the opposite of sexual attraction. This is not an opinion, that you can either agree or disagree with. This is an explanation of how falling in love works. When you feel attracted to someone in a way that makes you fall in love with them, the chemical reactions happening in your body is completely non-sexual, and all previous sexual feelings will be vanished in that process as well.
    Why do you think that I usually don't masturbate in several days after being with someone that I am in love with? Because I couldn't get further away from being sexually attracted, because of the fact that I am in love.

    Sexual attraction is a chemical reaction that is happening in your body as much as romantic attraction is. Two completely different reactions that can NEVER happen at the same time. If you have ever been in love, you'd also know that this is true. Love is an anti-sexual feeling. Oh god, how I hate living in a world full of people who are not even aware of this. THIS CAN'T JUST APPLY TO ME! THIS IS HOW LOVE WORKS!!!!!

    Terms such as "platonic love" and "asexual love" are just terms invented by ignorant people not wanting to realize that love itself is non-sexual, and that the idea of sex being a part of a loving relationship isn't even natural. It's something we are brainwashed to believe by the sad sad sad society we live in.


    I don't give a flying fuck about what wikipedia may say about love, or what scientist may try to say. I have experienced being in love myself, and I know that this is what being in love feels like. I pity those who have never had those anti-sexual feelings of love before.


    WE MUST ALL UNDERSTAND THAT LOVE IS AN ANTI-SEXUAL FEELING

    I'm outta here. I've had enough of this bullshit.
    (This post was last modified: 12-10-2015, 07:12 PM by David Wright.)
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    #20
    (12-10-2015, 06:00 PM)David Wright Wrote:  I find it incredible that people are trying to find a reason for why I am saying this.

    meh. puberty does funny things to people. grapes are sour.

    "Yeah. I understand the mechanics of it, shithead. I just don't understand how this is any less retarded than what I'm suggesting." - Kiley; Housebound.
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