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Russia to Ban the Word 'Gay'
02-23-2012, 08:02 PM
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Russia to Ban the Word 'Gay'
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Quote:In November 2011 St Petersburg shocked the world. The legislative assembly approved, in its first reading, a bill which outlawed the promotion of homosexuality, transsexuality and paedophilia to minors. The passage of the bill provoked a quick reaction from local LGBT activists, who organised several protests against the initiative. It also mobilised the international community. The bill was condemned by MEPs, the US state department and thousands of people from around the world, who signed an online petition against its implementation.

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02-23-2012, 08:43 PM
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RE: Russia to Ban the Word 'Gay'
A vast majority of the outraged articles opposing this bill seem to leave out the "toward minors" part. Sorry, but I'm opposed very strongly to activity that could possibly be construed as paedophilia, including ANYTHING that seeks to sexualise children, not just homosexual "propaganda".

Russia is not "banning gay" or even banning the use of the word. Homosexuality is legal in Russia, homosexuals are allowed to serve openly in the armed forces, you can legally change your gender, donate blood, adopt children (singly though, not as a couple -- a couple of parents, I'd imagine you can adopt a couple of children Smile) -- in fact, legally the only real difference between Russia and most other Western nations is that in Russia there are no anti-discrimination laws that protect gays/transgenders.

I wonder, did I miss the memo that said "everyone in the US, the UK, Australia, New Zealand, France, Germany, and all other nations (obviously missing out Africa and the Middle East, because they never come into these things) is 100% supportive of the rights of gays, lesbians and transgender people"? The US state department should maybe fix its own backyard before storming into everyone else's.

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02-23-2012, 09:48 PM
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promoting paedophilia to minors,of course that should be banned

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02-24-2012, 12:06 AM
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RE: Russia to Ban the Word 'Gay'
(02-23-2012 08:43 PM)Leanne Wrote:  A vast majority of the outraged articles opposing this bill seem to leave out the "toward minors" part. Sorry, but I'm opposed very strongly to activity that could possibly be construed as paedophilia, including ANYTHING that seeks to sexualise children, not just homosexual "propaganda".

Russia is not "banning gay" or even banning the use of the word. Homosexuality is legal in Russia, homosexuals are allowed to serve openly in the armed forces, you can legally change your gender, donate blood, adopt children (singly though, not as a couple -- a couple of parents, I'd imagine you can adopt a couple of children Smile) -- in fact, legally the only real difference between Russia and most other Western nations is that in Russia there are no anti-discrimination laws that protect gays/transgenders.

I wonder, did I miss the memo that said "everyone in the US, the UK, Australia, New Zealand, France, Germany, and all other nations (obviously missing out Africa and the Middle East, because they never come into these things) is 100% supportive of the rights of gays, lesbians and transgender people"? The US state department should maybe fix its own backyard before storming into everyone else's.

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02-24-2012, 10:19 AM
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RE: Russia to Ban the Word 'Gay'
Just so everyone knows, I neither write nor title these articles- I pirate them from major news outlets and retain their original title in almost all cases.

That beings said, they are trying to outlaw the use of the word 'gay' among other words in the presence of children. There are other things being considered, but should this legislation pass into law, you could be punished severely for using the word 'gay' in the presence of a child.

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02-24-2012, 04:03 PM
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RE: Russia to Ban the Word 'Gay'
You could be, if you were in Russia... however, the cynic in me can't help but notice that stirring up hatred of other governments is an excellent tool when one wants to deflect attention from the shortcomings of one's own laws and social policies.

Or do glass houses come already stone-proofed these days?

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02-24-2012, 09:40 PM
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Now as an observer and not the-guy-who-posts-the-news-threads, I totally agree that this has been blown way out of proportion. To countries with decent laws (or at least a good start) for protecting the rights of LGBT citizens, this comes as quite a shock- especially the way it is hyped by the media abroad, but in Russia there aren't that many fundamental human rights precedents for LGBTs.

In my opinion, this will bring change in Russia. All of this negative attention will surely cause the Russian government to realize that they have got to get in step with the rest of the world.

I read in another article that Saint Petersburg has been spending big time rubles lately trying to bring the city's image up in order to attract more attention. If they are doing PR work then they definitely will heed this resounding 'fuck you' from the rest of the world.

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08-18-2013, 07:19 AM
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RE: Russia to Ban the Word 'Gay'
They forget the word "Gay" has another and more widely used meaning- Happy. In the 70s, nobody would feel awkward to walk into a bar and announce "I'm gay" as that meant "I'm happy".

This is just like Omani government banning all the websites with the word "Teen" just because *most* of the websites with the word teen in them are porn sites. Now this makes the sites like TeensEducation.com inaccessible too. Banning words won't help.

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08-18-2013, 07:39 AM
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Since the end of communism and the collapse of the Soviet Union, Russia has become increasingly fascist.
The anti-gay legislation that has been passed in Russia is just one manifestation of this.
Sadly, Russia is not on the same path as the western world. It remains trapped in its authoritarian backwardness.

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08-18-2013, 01:54 PM
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My immediate response to this news was, "That's gay. Russia is such a backwards country, it's almost like Texas"

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