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Gareth Williams (MI6 Code Breaker) Suspicious Death or A Fetish Gone Wrong
04-25-2012, 05:14 PM
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Gareth Williams (MI6 Code Breaker) Suspicious Death or A Fetish Gone Wrong
Gareth Williams, the MI6 code breaker whos' body was found zipped up in a hold-all in his bath. The inquest into his death iscurrently front page news.

So what do you guys think:

1. Suspicious death?
2. Fetish gone wrong?

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04-25-2012, 05:20 PM
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RE: Gareth Williams (MI6 Code Breaker) Suspicious Death or A Fetish Gone Wrong
The inquest into the death of MI6 officer Gareth Williams, whose body was found in a locked bag in his London flat on 23 August 2010, has been told he was once found tied to his bed.

His former landlady said the spy, dressed in boxer shorts, called for help when he could not untie himself.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17837869
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04-25-2012, 05:24 PM
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RE: Gareth Williams (MI6 Code Breaker) Suspicious Death or A Fetish Gone Wrong
It can't have been a fetish. No sheep was found.

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04-25-2012, 05:47 PM
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RE: Gareth Williams (MI6 Code Breaker) Suspicious Death or A Fetish Gone Wrong
(04-25-2012 05:20 PM)snilloc Wrote:  The inquest into the death of MI6 officer Gareth Williams, whose body was found in a locked bag in his London flat on 23 August 2010, has been told he was once found tied to his bed.

His former landlady said the spy, dressed in boxer shorts, called for help when he could not untie himself.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17837869

Calling for his landlady/lord, could have been a prank that his partner played on him.
I've had to try and get out of handcuffs previously Wink

I smell a rat.

It's been proved that he could not put the lock on the bag from within the bag.
DNA (Unidentified) has been found within and outside the bag.
Met Police, MI6 and the coroner are all at odds with each other.
He had made it clear to his superiors he wasn't happy in his current position.
His family (including his then girlfriend) dispute the that he had fetishes.

It smells of David Kelly

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04-25-2012, 05:52 PM
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RE: Gareth Williams (MI6 Code Breaker) Suspicious Death or A Fetish Gone Wrong
Makes you wonder how much longer the Powers That Be are going to be able to get away with this sort of thing... the internet in particular is making people much more vigilant, and with more people asking questions it's getting more difficult to construct plausible explanations.

Although you have to wonder how many of these "conspiracy theories" are red herrings created by those responsible in order to distract people from the real agendas. We might not be kept in the dark as much any more, but are we just turning into a different kind of mushroom?

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04-25-2012, 05:53 PM
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RE: Gareth Williams (MI6 Code Breaker) Suspicious Death or A Fetish Gone Wrong
(04-25-2012 05:47 PM)2010kaiser Wrote:  
(04-25-2012 05:20 PM)snilloc Wrote:  The inquest into the death of MI6 officer Gareth Williams, whose body was found in a locked bag in his London flat on 23 August 2010, has been told he was once found tied to his bed.

His former landlady said the spy, dressed in boxer shorts, called for help when he could not untie himself.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17837869

Calling for his landlady/lord, could have been a prank that his partner played on him.
I've had to try and get out of handcuffs previously Wink

I smell a rat.

It's been proved that he could not put the lock on the bag from within the bag.
DNA (Unidentified) has been found within and outside the bag.
Met Police, MI6 and the coroner are all at odds with each other.
He had made it clear to his superiors he wasn't happy in his current position in the bagBig Grin
His family (including his then girlfriend) dispute the that he had fetishes.

It smells of David Kelly

Kaiser The David Kelly reference is well observed and worth reading
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05-02-2012, 05:33 AM
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RE: Gareth Williams (MI6 Code Breaker) Suspicious Death or A Fetish Gone Wrong
MI6 death verdict: 'No unlawful killing' says coroner

The police investigation into Mr Williams' death lasted 21 months

The coroner heading the inquest into the death of MI6 officer Gareth Williams says she cannot consider an unlawful killing verdict.

With her decision due later, Fiona Wilcox said a narrative verdict was most appropriate as an open verdict would not do justice to the case.
The body of the 31-year-old code-breaker from Anglesey was found locked in a bag in his London flat in 2010.

Westminster Coroner's Court heard experts could not agree on how he died.

A narrative verdict has been an option for coroners in England and Wales since 2004 and is where the circumstances of a death are recorded without attributing the cause to a named individual.
Evidence 'reliability'

Three pathologists who conducted post-mortem examinations on Mr Williams have been unable to reach a firm conclusion on cause of death.

But they say poisoning and asphyxiation are the foremost contenders.
The coroner is expected to deliver her verdict within hours.

BBC home affairs correspondent Danny Shaw tweeted she said she would comment on the "reliability and robustness of evidence".
It was disclosed at the inquest on Tuesday that police were only made aware this week that MI6 had withheld computer memory sticks and a North Face bag, similar to the one he was discovered in, found in his office.

Det Ch Insp Jackie Sebire, who is leading the investigation, told the court that the secret services also searched his "electronic media" without informing police.

Scotland Yard's Det Con Colin Hall, of the counter-terror SO15 branch, was questioned about his search of Mr Williams' MI6 office on 26 August 2010, saying he did not seize computer memory sticks because he was told they contained material "of a sensitive nature".
'Dark arts'

Ms Sebire has said Scotland Yard will review lines of inquiry in its investigation in the wake of the inquest.

Pathologists have told the court Mr Williams would have suffocated within three minutes if he was alive when he got inside the red 81cm x 48cm North Face bag, at his flat in Pimlico, west London.
Meanwhile, bag experts have said even Harry Houdini would have struggled to lock himself in the bag.

Mr Williams' family has told the inquest they believe he may have been killed by an agent "specialising in the dark arts of the secret services".
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05-02-2012, 06:24 AM
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(05-02-2012 05:33 AM)snilloc Wrote:  Mr Williams' family has told the inquest they believe he may have been killed by an agent "specialising in the dark arts of the secret services".

'snuff' said. Smile

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05-03-2012, 06:44 AM
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More on TV today they are talking about National Security so not much more information will emerge
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05-03-2012, 03:15 PM
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Of course the natural conclusion is that it's a spy vs spy thing... but a clever murderer would have predicted exactly these assumptions... it could be just a straightforward homicide, same as is committed every day, with the perfect misdirection in the form of his profession. But that wouldn't make good news, would it?

(It's clearly not a suicide or fetish gone wrong though)

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